Probate Practitioners Conference

This one day conference provides essential CPD and updates for accountants who offer probate services to their clients.

Who should attend the conference

Mercia's Probate Practitioners Conference is a must-attend event for any accountancy firms with Probate services.

Through this one-day virtual conference, you will get practical advice about all the latest changes and challenges currently facing the probate sector. 


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Full conference agenda


Daniel White, ICAEW

In this session, Daniel will explain the monitoring process and provide feedback from the visits QAD has carried out in relation to probate. In particular, the session will cover:

  • The monitoring process.
  • Feedback from QAD’s 2022/23 probate visits.
  • ICAEW resources for probate practitioners.

Lesley King, University of Law

Given the time available this session will not attempt a comprehensive review. It will look at particular issues relating to nil rate band discretionary trusts and interest in possession trusts that can cause problems. These will include:

  • Do the trusts have to be registered and, if so, when?
  • Can trustees exercise powers in their own favour.

IPDI trusts

  • Consequences of terminating an IPDI during beneficiary’s lifetime.
  • Is Residence Nil Rate band (RNRB) available on second death?
  •  Likelihood of challenge from surviving spouse/civil partner.
  • Trustee losing capacity.
  • What’s the difference between a right to occupy and a full life interest?
  • Who has the remainder interest?

NRB discretionary trusts

  • Should they be kept or wound up?
  • Conflict of interests.
  • Reducing the costs of administration.

After completing the session delegates will be able to:

  • Advise on the need to register details of trusts.
  • Recognise conflict of interests.
  • Advise on the IHT implications of dealing with IPDI trusts.
  • Recognise problems arising from defective drafting.
  • Advise on whether NRB discretionary trusts should be retained or wound up.
  • Advise on ways to streamline the administration of discretionary trusts.

Lesley King, University of Law

Post-death variations are often seen as ‘bread and butter’ for private client practitioners but there are a number of pitfalls. This session will look at how to avoid the pitfalls but will also look at the opportunities for adding value for clients. While variations can be used to redirect assets (‘generation skipping’), increasingly they are used to ‘re jig’ the distribution of assets to achieve a more satisfactory IHT result. This session will consider:

  • The statutory provisions available and the differences between them.
  • The formalities required for each.
  • Ways in which the provisions can be used to benefit clients.
  • Common pitfalls.

After completing the session delegates will be able to:

  • Identify which provision is most appropriate.
  • Identify circumstances in which the use of the provisions will be beneficial.
  • Avoid mistakes when exercising the provisions.

Amanda Fisher, AJF Taxation

Amanda will use case studies to illustrate the opportunities for tax planning. 

She will bring to life the interaction of the taxes together with some of the practicalities of managing a client scenario


Julie Butler, Butler & Co

The session will look at the impact of Budget 2023 and 2024 on APR and farming for the environment. The current attacks on APR, including the farmhouse, by HMRC will be featured. The APR on farm tenancies especially with diversification will be reviewed with strategy around the AHA tenancies and 50% APR. The agricultural value restrictions will be considered especially in the context of high values and development opportunities as set out by Rachel Reeves and the need for BPR protection and interaction will be explored.


Pat Nown, Mercia Group

Residential property, in particular the family home, is a key chargeable component in IHT estates and as such securing any available relief or planning for mitigation is critical for the family home understanding the RNRB is essential. The session will include:

  • Key points and pitfalls of IHT RNRB.
  • Downsizing matters!
  • Planning with the family home and other residential property.

Conference speakers


Dan joined the Quality Assurance Department (QAD) of ICAEW in 2017, having previously been a manager in the audit practice of a national firm. He manages QAD’s probate monitoring as well as leading a team of reviewers who carry out audit, Practice Assurance (PA) and DPB monitoring visits to a range of firms. He is also involved with our third-party contracts with The Institute and Faculty of Actuaries as well as with other regulators based overseas. Dan also manages QAD's Licensed Practice monitoring for firms registered as ATOL Reporting Accountants.


Julie Butler FCA qualified as a Chartered Accountant in 1980 and founded the firm of Butler & Co in 1986. This business now trades as Butler & Co Alresford Ltd and Butler & Co Audit Ltd. Julie is a farm and equine tax specialist and is also an authorised individual licensed by the ICAEW to carry out the reserved legal activity of non-contentious probate in England and Wales. 

Julie is the author of Tax Planning for Farm and Land Diversification and Equine Tax Planning as well as co-author of Stanley: Taxation of Farmers and Landowners with Malcolm Gunn CTA (Fellow). Julie is also editor of Farm Tax Brief. Julie and her team provide tax consultancy services direct to the farming and equine industry and to other accountants, land agents and solicitors on farming diversification, bloodstock and all areas of the equine world. 

Julie writes regularly in all the technical tax press and has a reputation for a fresh approach to subjects such as the need for partnership agreements, succession planning, all areas of development land, the definition of farming, woodlands, furnished holiday accommodation and all farm property concerns in this current complicated economic climate. Recent areas of tax writing have included Natural Capital, Biodiversity Net Gain (BNG) with the impact on development, the Agriculture Act 2020 focusing on the changing subsidies, tax protection around pony paddocks, mixed rate SDLT and rewilding. Consideration has been given to interaction with Will planning, TRS registration of partnerships, and Stud losses. Julie lectures regularly to a large variety of audiences through various organisations and to the rural community directly.


Professor Lesley King is a former member of the Probate & Estates Committee of STEP, a former member of the Law Society’s Wills & Equity Committee and an honorary member of the Association of Contentious Trust and Probate Specialists. She is Professional Development Consultant at the University of Law.

She is co-author of Wills, Taxation and Administration: A Practical Guide; A Modern Approach to Wills, Administration and Estate Planning (with Precedents);  A Modern Approach to Lifetime Tax Planning for Private Clients (with Precedents); A Practitioner’s Guide to Wills; Varying the Disposition of an Estate after Death; Wills: A Practical Guide; and editor of The Probate Practitioner’s Handbook.

She is a contributor to the Wills and Trusts volumes of Halsbury’s Laws and the Encyclopaedia of Forms and Precedents and to The Law and Ethics of Dementia. She is the wills and probate columnist for the Law Society Gazette, and writes and lectures extensively on wills, taxation and related matters.


Amanda Fisher began her career with HM Revenue and Customs and later moved over into practice and qualified with Grant Thornton where she gained considerable experience dealing with private tax clients and their businesses, trusts and estates. Since becoming self employed in 2004, Amanda has her own tax and accountancy practice of private clients, alongside her other freelance work as a lecturer, examiner and author. She also regularly works as a consultant to firms and practitioners on an array of tax matters, specialising in capital taxes, trust and estate matters. Amanda has devoted time as a committee member for STEP and ICAEW and is currently a branch committee member for ATT/CIOT.


Pat is a tax consultant lecturer at Mercia Group. Pat originally trained and worked in the profession for Ernst & Young, Grant Thornton and KPMG before moving to the University of Derby as their senior tax lecturer. Her time at Derby included undergraduate and professional tax training as well as being involved in examinations and publishing projects for ACCA and other professional bodies.

This led to a ten-year period with the Financial Training Company (now Kaplan) where she was Tax Product Director for the Midlands as well as becoming well known as a prominent exam-based tax lecturer. Over her career Pat has been actively involved in the tax professional bodies including serving as a Council member for 12 years for the Association of Taxation Technicians.

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The on-demand recording is available soon

The recording of this conference will be released on 7 October 2024 and will be available to view until 30 June 2025.